Life’s a Bitch: Concerning Indonesian and Hungarian Ladies
Mirror mirror on the wall…tell me who’s the bitchiest of them all…

Judit Kuchta and Ayu Azhari
Tyra Banks said, “I feel like women hate each other. We’re jealous and it has to stop” I agree. Women competition is always very tough—and stupid, and hilarious all at once. It may get less media covering, but it also does happen to us mere mortals. What do we compete in? While many use career as their reason like Tyra and Naomi; or simply buddy feud like Paris and Nicole (Hilton and Richie, that is); most compete to get more attention from the opposite sex.
I thought things were a little different back there in the jungle called Indonesia. You know; no bikinis, no kissing in public, no porn (porn has more definite meaning there: naked people) on TV, get it? Although women with burqa are quite rare; there’s no way you would see prostitutes on the side of the street. Theoretically women would be less saucy and aggressive. That was what I believed, as I had never caught into any women feud before.
I soon learned the lesson though. On a date with my then fiancé—now my husband, we went to a boutique. The shopkeeper girls were nice with me as they always did; but they were being more “friendly” with my man. While I was at the fitting room, I could hear all their conversation. Surely they knew. Shamelessly they asked for my fiancé’s number with their “ndö klots are on dö téböl” (the clothes are on the table) English. Grrrrr!!!!! It may have something to do with girls’ preference of white men. OK, they were properly dressed; they didn’t wink; nor did they touch him. In any way, it was enough to piss me off. Welcome to the jungle!
Another time we were having lunch with my girl friend. Whenever I was around, this girl never ever cracked a word in English—as if she was allergy to the language. And when I had to wash my hand, she could suddenly become a free tourist guide for him. She was my friend, mind you. Double grrrr!!!!!! Those girls, talking are their expertise; at least in public. Who knows what they are up to when nobody is looking.
There was a saying: as long as the coconut leaves are not bended yet; one is still eligible. In Indonesian wedding, people decorate their house using the bended coconut leaves. So while you haven’t seen those leaves, you are free to approach anyone as you suit. I have found that quite inaccurate. A friend of my friend—let us call her Katie, like Katie Holmes—has even gone too far. She is married to a 40 something Australian man. If the age difference failed to make you puke (Come on, my mom is 44), the next story wouldn’t. When they met, the guy was still married to another woman in Australia. Although Katie denied that she knew his marital status from the start, she never made any efforts to end her relationship afterwards. The man continued to visit her in Jakarta, got her a job and apartment. Apparently he was super duper wealthy. In short, he finally got divorced and married to Katie. And what did Katie said? Secretly, she complained, “I envy his ex wife. She has taken away most of his wealth. If only I knew him before she did…” I said secretly, because sex out of wedlock is a no-no. And what she had done was far beyond the limit from our jungle point of view. However, I doubt that she was the only one to do it.
Such stories may be common here in Europe. Nevertheless they were pretty alarming for me. I mean “wild” would be the last thing to define Indonesian women. But look at those things they do? It made me wonder about what the European counterparts would do given the same situation. Simply kiss the man at the first sight?
I was somewhat prepared for worse things concerning the issue when I moved in with my husband to Budapest. To my surprise, Hungarian ladies are in some ways more polite than the Indonesians. At least no woman has ever asked for my husband’s number in a flirtatious way on my face, phew! Sure women walk around flaunting their flesh—even during winter; but it was not a personal attack against me, so I guess I’m okay with it. It’s still weird to see how the news at prime time shows the making of porn movies as if they were a simple movie shooting though.
One thing is sure: Hungarian has different standard. Which standard is better? Apparently it all depends on your point of view. I am not explaining further on this. To give further picture, however, you may want to read about Miss Indonesia’s controversy. The lass was protested only for wearing swimsuit during Miss Universe pageant. Compare to the Miss World Hungary 2000 who proudly boasted that she dumped Vin Diesel over a Hungarian man. It matters a little whether she was telling the truth
or not; Artika sari Devi would have never said things like these: “Vin is very gallant. “He always sent me a first class plane ticket, a limo and even rented a private plane just so I could hurry to him. I enjoyed that he carried me in his palm, but I didn’t bond with him emotionally, and that hurt him. For example, he was sad that I always got out of bed early, so he couldn’t cuddle me.”
Getting along with a Hollywood hunk is a big thing, but to admit to sleep with one in Indonesia would bring more condemnation than pride. The Indonesian beauty Ayu Azhari knows how it feels like. The actress turned to singer was related to ex While Lion front man Mike Tramp after divorcing from her Fin husband. It happened long before Angelina Jolie even started to woo Brad Pitt while denying it; which means that you should know Ayu Azhari and Mike Tramp were the trendsetters. They refused to be called an item even when they were caught together. The actress is now staying in France after giving birth for Tramp’s baby—allegedly to avoid the public condemnation in Indonesia. Of course nobody would ever criticize them if they ever plan to get married. So, instead of gloating over her “success”, poor Ayu Azhari received the bitter part. Then who is the bitchiest? Life, methinks!
UPDATE:
I received quite hits from this piece. So before things get nasty, I thought I should update the story a little bit. Ayu Azhari has confirmed that Mike Tramp and her were married in a religious ceremony after Mike was converted into Islam–where and how, she wouldn’t say. The baby is called as Isabel Tramp, for those who are curious about the littleone. So, who’s the bitchiest, again?
Related article: It’s Official: Mike Tramp, Ayu Azhari and Baby Isabel




No way!!! Mike Tramp is Muslim now?
Comment by Cindy — January 16, 2006 @ 3:57 pm
According to the link on the update above, yes. Dunno whether Ayu Azhari was speaking the truth or it was a mere publicity stunt…
Comment by ayulittleone — January 16, 2006 @ 7:19 pm
Lets first say this is pure gossip untill things are confirmed offically by both sides!
so i would like to leave it there before getting into speculations!
and also, if it is true, whats the point!
people get married all over the world for ages!
there is nothing new at that!
Comment by Arie — January 22, 2006 @ 7:58 pm
at this stage it is pure speculation and i would say pure gossip unless it is officially confirmed by both sides!
Comment by Arie — January 22, 2006 @ 8:03 pm
Actually the reason why I posted the piece was to describe a little about my encounter with annoying behavior done by women in Indonesia (where I was born) and those in Hungary (where I am living). I am neither Ayu Azhari’s fan nor Mike Tramp’s. If you followed the link I provided on the update above, you can read the source I mentioned (in Indonesian, mind you). The newspaper quoted from Ayu Azhari herself during her appearance on an Indonesian TV channel (click here for more of this).
So, on the matter whether she spoke the truth or not–it is totally up to you to accept it. I agree that there should be no issue about their marriage because people do get married. It is even better if they are married, I would say–especially with the baby and such. I put the update, however, to clarify my previous accusation of her for being pregnant out of wedlock. It may not be a big problem in many places–but it is in Indonesia. As you could see, I wasn’t trying to make this stuff as the headline of the piece–until some friends dropped by and asked me further about it. So if you think it is just gossip, then feel free to say so. I have no further information from Mike Tramp’s side. Perhaps you’d have better luck with Google.
Comment by ayulittleone — January 22, 2006 @ 10:27 pm
I think the bitchiest of all is you !! Being so judgemental to Indonesian girls. Every girls of any country has their own character and that is including being good and bad… Oh well girl, dont blame everything on your indonesian pals when they trying to get to your hubby… ever think maybe your hubby started all those conversation ??? knowing that you are not around ?? but hey its better to blame the girls instead confront him… right ???
Comment by wida — January 23, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
Woo ha, that is freedom of speech, I say. Don’t worry, I’ve got thick skin. I am aware that not everyone is like that–but on this piece I only wanted to discuss the specific side, mind you. The reason I used Indonesian and Hungarian women to compare is merely because I have lived in the two places. How could I write about women in Switzerland–I have never visited the place. Of course I wouldn’t say every Indonesian woman in bad–hey I am Indonesian. My mom is Indonesian and surely she’s one of the nicest women I could tell. But, again, this is a blog. If you cannot rant on your own blog, then where else? Oh and I suppose you have the same right too, of course. In any case, why did it piss you off that much if you think it’s untrue? Peace, lady!
Comment by ayulittleone — January 23, 2006 @ 3:56 pm
what kind of blog did you make. Don’t you have anything else to do?
Comment by Mike Tramp fan — January 31, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
Thank you so much for updating me on Ayu getting married to Mike, I was wondering if they would. Since I can’t read Indonesian I was having trouble following the story. I hope Mike really takes Islam seriously in the future (maybe he did now), Inshahallah. Al Hamda Allah at least now they are right in Allah’s view, inshahallah.
Comment by Vested Interest — January 31, 2006 @ 7:25 pm
Mike Tramp fan: What kind of comment did you write? Don’t you have anything else to do?
Vested Interest: Thank you for writing me. Let’s hope that they will live happily ever after
The link was basically about Ayu’s appearance on a local television where she then explained that she’s now Mrs. Tramp.
Comment by ayulittleone — January 31, 2006 @ 8:41 pm
But wasn’t Mike already married? He also has a 10-year-old son named Dylan. I know he’s always been very secretive about his private life, but was his new baby born before he got a divorce? Interesting.
Comment by batmura — February 7, 2006 @ 11:25 pm
Really? I didn’t know that. The news was in November 2005, and by that time the baby had been 7 weeks, Ayu Azhari said. It is her 5th child, by the way. There was no confirmation about his divorce whatsoever, but she did mention that the marriage was held in “secretive” religious ceremony–which means it is legal from religion point of view, but otherwise not recorded by the government.
Comment by ayulittleone — February 8, 2006 @ 6:20 am
Do you know if they live in Indonesia?
Comment by Tramp forever — February 13, 2006 @ 5:35 pm
Um no, I don’t. I read that Ayu Azhari said she wanted to live in France but then she didn’t say when would that be.
Comment by ayulittleone — February 13, 2006 @ 6:13 pm
I agree with your comments.. I have couple of Latino boyfriends in Indonesia and they are soccer players.. When I go out with my bf.. girls disturb them like you describe.. it is jungle here in Indonesia.. but nevertheless they are all “nothing” anyway… let them all envy us…
Comment by Jaxx Pardede — March 9, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
Jaxx: lol yeah, I think those kind of girls exist everywhere…so just like you said, leave them be.
Comment by ayulittleone — March 11, 2006 @ 10:25 pm
Great for them Both
congrats on the beautiful daughter. they deserve all the hapiness
cheerio,
marco
Comment by marco — May 5, 2006 @ 11:19 am
Who’s Mike Tramp? Who’s Ayu Azhari? Who cares????
Comment by tnome — November 9, 2006 @ 12:22 am
Well, apparently someone who didn’t care had just found this piece using the keyword “Ayu Azhari”
Thx for dropping by
Comment by ayulittleone — November 9, 2006 @ 7:15 am
Yeah, I found this piece by using a keyword “Ayu” which is the name of my gal-friend & “Azhari” is the name of my boy-friend, then it suddenly turned out on this blog. I thought WOW… my friends already became more famous than Ayu Azhari or even Mike Tramp!!! But after all, this blog’s juz wasting my time!
Comment by tnome — December 6, 2006 @ 11:25 am
Hey Jaxx Pardede,
Why should we envy you? There’s nothing worth to get jealous from a woman like you, who basically jealous to us!!! If you’re worried so much about your bf getting stolen by Indo women, why don’t you just tie him up and lock him in a cage??? The jungles are not only in Indo and the bithces are not always us!!! Open your eyes!!!
Comment by bfr33_chix — December 6, 2006 @ 11:35 am
it’s about Indonesian girls trying steal white men? ha ha ha..I am an Indonesian girl, live in Moscow, Russian Federation, and get piss off with white men. I don’t want to married with them, no…thanx!
Comment by princesbalquise — February 15, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
Hey,you`ve got a point. I think that saying grass is always greener on the other side is true in this case. You`re lucky that you could get a broader view by living abroad. But those girls may be deluded by whatever fairytales they read about white guys. I`m not saying that it`s true or not, but we shouldn`t forget that white guys are human beings. Like any others, some are nice and some are bad. I`m very fortunate to marry a wonderful man, but it`s just not right to judge by his color. Though I know many still do. I`m not pointing any fingers to anyone, but such girls do exist, also in neighboring countries like Malaysia and Singapore. Otherwise why would they have that term sarong party girls?
Comment by ayu — February 16, 2007 @ 12:18 am
You’re not indonesian right? Well, I am. I would say that you gotta understand how media in asia really do emphasize the superior of white people. How globalization, hollywood, etc etc greatly affect us day by day. I mean, when i was living in asia white people, black people are rare sight. I got really blown away seeing the distinct sight. And then I moved to the Netherlands where you pretty much see white people everywhere. And guess what? it all became too common and I started to look for something different again (in this case, asian). I don’t know, I guess this is the habit you get when you’re actually single, hahaha. I wouldn’t say Indonesian women are bitches, though. We just tend to get TOO amazed by the differences of people.
Anyways, Mika Tramp muslim eh? I wouldn’t really believe that. I’m quite sure that Ayu is just stating that to save herself from harsh discrimination from the media. Of course as an actress who has quite aged (well, not really, but she isn’t entirely new either) she has to try hard to keep her popularity.
Comment by Indah — October 18, 2007 @ 7:06 am
Hi Indah, I am actually Indonesian
, although I am not living in Indonesia. I agree with you, we Indonesians are too amazed by the differences of people. Surely a woman like ayu azhari is not that common, and I should not think that she represents Indonesian women. The post is just a rant, nothing more
Comment by ayulittleone — October 18, 2007 @ 10:03 am